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everdrive 1 hours ago [-]
This is called a "ClickFix" attack. There is really _never_ a time when a CAPTCHA will require you to execute code on your machine.
The attack is basically getting someone to accidentally run malicious code.
- ctrl + R brings up the Windows "run" dialogue.
- the code executes a powershell command that reaches out to a remote server
- if successful, the remote server answers and you have installed a dropper or something.
Really, you should never do _anything_ like this for any website. You don't need to protect yourself. This is sort of equivalent (in the strict metaphorical sense) of getting a call from your bank and they ask you for your banking password: you just never do it, no matter what. Same thing here. You don't ever execute code via the run dialogue to solve a CAPTHCA. Never.
> There is really _never_ a time when a CAPTCHA will require you to execute code on your machine.
I think the concern is the user not knowing they're executing code on their machine.
And as a counterexample: some captchas require you to compute something expensive to prove you're not a llm scraper or whatever. It's normal for captchas to require you to execute code on your machine, it's just usually done within the browser's sandbox.
And anyway, these things are completely incomprehensible to non-technical users.
cavoirom 3 minutes ago [-]
but people pipes a shell script from a URL to bash all the time. with enough practices, it becames second nature.
gus_massa 25 minutes ago [-]
I've seen sites with similar fake captchas posted twice in the last month by old time regular users. My guess is that the sites were infected after they saw and decide to post it here.
As a workaround, is it possible to disable Ctr+R to add some friction in case I am distracted?
nubinetwork 52 minutes ago [-]
$dayjob just sent out a corporate wide email saying the same thing... I guess it's starting to go around... it's been a while since I've seen a fake website telling people to eg. disable UAC.
kstrauser 1 hours ago [-]
Not directly answering your questions, but I just wanted to say: Great instincts!
You saw something unusual, then
1. Stopped what you were doing.
2. Investigated to see if this was legitimate or malicious.
3. Identified a place to asked others about it.
4. Formulated a good question with enough background information to help people answer it.
All around good job! Well done.
SirFatty 43 minutes ago [-]
5. Paste the entire command on HN so the aspiring script kiddies have a launching point.
6. ?
7. Profit!
kstrauser 20 minutes ago [-]
What’s the Venn diagram of 1) HN users, 2) on Windows, 3) willing to paste something tagged as malware into their own systems to verify?
Given that the asker isn’t experienced enough to know for sure, erring on the side of giving all the information was the right call. If they didn’t, someone would be riding them about “how are we suppose to know if you don’t show us?”.
paulyy_y 39 minutes ago [-]
5. Put the malicious payload directly into work AI system.
"Great instincts!" lmao
kstrauser 22 minutes ago [-]
I do this literally several times a week. “Hey Droid, this looks like malware. What do you make of it?”
It’s the best sandbox I have near at hand for investigating things like that.
Good4boothee 59 minutes ago [-]
> How do you protect yourself
Was the site itself actually infected(hacked)? If not, then all you need is adblock (like ublock origin). And that was true for last 20 years.
If website actually got hacked then I don't know of any good solutions. It will be flagged soon or later, and new visitors will be blocked by "Google Safe Browsing". Using something like "Qubes OS" might protect you against attacks based on browser zero-days but VMs don't really protect against ClickFix when people usually share clipboard between host and client VMs.
Retr0id 32 minutes ago [-]
Google is trying to normalize a new "complete the captcha on your phone by scanning a QR code" flow, which I'm sure will be a whole new vector for scams.
iamnothere 22 minutes ago [-]
Can’t wait for the first “scan this code to verify” scam that takes you to a mobile Chrome 0day
Or you could send them to download some spyware/adware Play Store app
OkayPhysicist 9 minutes ago [-]
Couldn't any exploit possible via that pathway also be executed based on a link? I don't see how a QR code makes the situation any worse.
As you might imagine, these attacks are aimed at less sophisticated users who may have no idea what Win+R even does, and who might be tricked into believing that this actually has anything to do with website verification.
The site you visited -- or one of the resources it depends on -- might have been compromised. If you're enterprising, you could probably determine where the malicious script is getting loaded from by looking in the page source.
bstsb 37 minutes ago [-]
looking at the source code, the entire phishing page is an iframe created through `srcDoc`. the script itself has no command for Mac users to run, so in my case it just copies "Oops..." to my clipboard - the iframe only loads the first time a user visits the page, after which only a tracking script remains.
it also sets some interesting scripts to your LocalStorage, which are evaluated upon each page load.
the first sends an object to another remote server, { c: <contract address>, e: encrypted base64 blob of basic device info }.
the second calls an API to make said smart contract run the function whose selector is 0xca3348d9, with no parameters, and return the result. the address is 0x58460d0b3d4d6b03761c89120393c0c676676496
edit: this is wildly complex, way more so than a traditional ClickFix attack. it's fetching JS scripts from a Ethereum/Base contract and executing them - i've never seen something like this before. it's got a kill switch too and a cooldown, so i'm no longer experiencing the initial malware dropper on my device "fingerprint"
c0n5pir4cy 54 minutes ago [-]
Do you have any browser extensions enabled?
I've seen similar before where it wasn't the page itself that injected it - rather it was injected by a compromised/sold extension that has permissions on all pages.
deepsummer 26 minutes ago [-]
Not this time. Go to crookedtimber dot org and you can still see it. Just don't follow the instructions... but clean your browser afterwards!
It even supports Macs. But the Mac clipboard content is just "Oops...".
P.S.: even worse: the crookedtimber site itself is infected. No third-party attack. It registers a service worker on the user's browser that stays even when you leave the site. Be sure to clean up the storage data after visiting that site.
c0n5pir4cy 16 minutes ago [-]
I'm not getting it at all! I'm guessing something about my environment has caused it to cloak itself.
deepsummer 3 minutes ago [-]
Claude's analysis: "it skips logged-in WordPress users (wordpress_logged_in_* cookie), skips /wp-admin and /wp-login.php, and rate-limits to once per day per visitor via localStorage. That's why site admins don't see it — and why you only saw it on first load."
fine-work-team.com has been reported as suspicious. Cloudflare is blocking it now.
netsharc 8 minutes ago [-]
Heh, the URL OP gave returns an MP3 file (starts with hex FF FB), at the end it mentions "LAME3.100" and about half a kilobyte of U's.
It plays in a media player too.
Now watch the people with "overabundance of caution" tell me what I did was stupid...
confusedbucket 47 minutes ago [-]
> Has this happened to you before ?
Almost, recently. I bought a new Mac, needed something reliable to carry around. I never had a Mac or anything from Apple before, so I wasn't familiar with how exactly does it work. I knew homebrew existed, I understood it's similar to Linux/Windows in that not all applications are in the store, but wasn't familiar at all with how those are commonly installed.
Here's what I did:
1. Open Safari, the only browser there was.
2. Typed "claude mac download" in the search bar (needed Cowork).
3. Clicked the first link.
4. Copied the command it told me to, instructing me to run it in terminal.
Only now I realize that there's something fishy about the command; it had base64 payload in it. Didn't run it and took closer look on the page - it was a Claude share (which I quickly scrolled over).
I can admit mistakes, but Google, Apple and Anthropic deserve some blame here, too.
- Google: pushed malware link up top, didn't (distinctly, at least) mark it as a paid result and I'd swear it didn't show me the URL (which I usually always check before clicking, but maybe I just missed it as the search results are rendered differently from Kagi's)
- Safari: hides path by default, so all you see is "claude.ai". Someone probably thought this looked nice, I think it's just borderline idiotic.
- Anthropic: hosts what's essentially a user-content on their main domain.
Also recently saw a few legit projects using base64 in their install one-liners. Please, stop it.
> How do you protect yourself ?
Installed not Safari and made Google not my default search engine, as I always do. That way I at least always know where I am.
SoftTalker 1 hours ago [-]
> How do i protect myself from these scams / hack attempts in the future
Endless vigilance. Scammers are always working on new tricks. You were rightly suspicious and not fooled by this one.
baggachipz 1 hours ago [-]
> showed showed
bschne 1 hours ago [-]
pinged one of the authors on bsky, let's see
sharedptr 1 hours ago [-]
It’s a typical technique, report it to safe browsing, upload it to VirusTotal, that should be tit flagged quickly
The attack is basically getting someone to accidentally run malicious code.
- ctrl + R brings up the Windows "run" dialogue.
- the code executes a powershell command that reaches out to a remote server
- if successful, the remote server answers and you have installed a dropper or something.
Really, you should never do _anything_ like this for any website. You don't need to protect yourself. This is sort of equivalent (in the strict metaphorical sense) of getting a call from your bank and they ask you for your banking password: you just never do it, no matter what. Same thing here. You don't ever execute code via the run dialogue to solve a CAPTHCA. Never.
https://www.sentinelone.com/blog/how-clickfix-is-weaponizing...
I think the concern is the user not knowing they're executing code on their machine.
And as a counterexample: some captchas require you to compute something expensive to prove you're not a llm scraper or whatever. It's normal for captchas to require you to execute code on your machine, it's just usually done within the browser's sandbox.
And anyway, these things are completely incomprehensible to non-technical users.
As a workaround, is it possible to disable Ctr+R to add some friction in case I am distracted?
You saw something unusual, then
1. Stopped what you were doing.
2. Investigated to see if this was legitimate or malicious.
3. Identified a place to asked others about it.
4. Formulated a good question with enough background information to help people answer it.
All around good job! Well done.
Given that the asker isn’t experienced enough to know for sure, erring on the side of giving all the information was the right call. If they didn’t, someone would be riding them about “how are we suppose to know if you don’t show us?”.
"Great instincts!" lmao
It’s the best sandbox I have near at hand for investigating things like that.
Was the site itself actually infected(hacked)? If not, then all you need is adblock (like ublock origin). And that was true for last 20 years.
If website actually got hacked then I don't know of any good solutions. It will be flagged soon or later, and new visitors will be blocked by "Google Safe Browsing". Using something like "Qubes OS" might protect you against attacks based on browser zero-days but VMs don't really protect against ClickFix when people usually share clipboard between host and client VMs.
Or you could send them to download some spyware/adware Play Store app
As you might imagine, these attacks are aimed at less sophisticated users who may have no idea what Win+R even does, and who might be tricked into believing that this actually has anything to do with website verification.
The site you visited -- or one of the resources it depends on -- might have been compromised. If you're enterprising, you could probably determine where the malicious script is getting loaded from by looking in the page source.
it also sets some interesting scripts to your LocalStorage, which are evaluated upon each page load.
the first sends an object to another remote server, { c: <contract address>, e: encrypted base64 blob of basic device info }.
the second calls an API to make said smart contract run the function whose selector is 0xca3348d9, with no parameters, and return the result. the address is 0x58460d0b3d4d6b03761c89120393c0c676676496
edit: this is wildly complex, way more so than a traditional ClickFix attack. it's fetching JS scripts from a Ethereum/Base contract and executing them - i've never seen something like this before. it's got a kill switch too and a cooldown, so i'm no longer experiencing the initial malware dropper on my device "fingerprint"
I've seen similar before where it wasn't the page itself that injected it - rather it was injected by a compromised/sold extension that has permissions on all pages.
It even supports Macs. But the Mac clipboard content is just "Oops...".
P.S.: even worse: the crookedtimber site itself is infected. No third-party attack. It registers a service worker on the user's browser that stays even when you leave the site. Be sure to clean up the storage data after visiting that site.
It plays in a media player too.
Now watch the people with "overabundance of caution" tell me what I did was stupid...
Almost, recently. I bought a new Mac, needed something reliable to carry around. I never had a Mac or anything from Apple before, so I wasn't familiar with how exactly does it work. I knew homebrew existed, I understood it's similar to Linux/Windows in that not all applications are in the store, but wasn't familiar at all with how those are commonly installed.
Here's what I did:
1. Open Safari, the only browser there was.
2. Typed "claude mac download" in the search bar (needed Cowork).
3. Clicked the first link.
4. Copied the command it told me to, instructing me to run it in terminal.
Only now I realize that there's something fishy about the command; it had base64 payload in it. Didn't run it and took closer look on the page - it was a Claude share (which I quickly scrolled over).
I can admit mistakes, but Google, Apple and Anthropic deserve some blame here, too.
- Google: pushed malware link up top, didn't (distinctly, at least) mark it as a paid result and I'd swear it didn't show me the URL (which I usually always check before clicking, but maybe I just missed it as the search results are rendered differently from Kagi's)
- Safari: hides path by default, so all you see is "claude.ai". Someone probably thought this looked nice, I think it's just borderline idiotic.
- Anthropic: hosts what's essentially a user-content on their main domain.
Also recently saw a few legit projects using base64 in their install one-liners. Please, stop it.
> How do you protect yourself ?
Installed not Safari and made Google not my default search engine, as I always do. That way I at least always know where I am.
Endless vigilance. Scammers are always working on new tricks. You were rightly suspicious and not fooled by this one.